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Merlin
Mar 28, 2007 10:40:17 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 28, 2007 10:40:17 GMT 9.5
wow no I've never heard of fic by that name or that author. lol Most of the fics I read are recommended by friends because its so hard to find stuff on there unless you get lucky and stumble across something. ff.net me: arwen17evenstar
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Merlin
Mar 28, 2007 16:56:24 GMT 9.5
Post by Incapability on Mar 28, 2007 16:56:24 GMT 9.5
If you should ever stumble across that fic, I recommend you skip through a chapter or two before reading the flames everybody left. They, at least, are pretty entertaining.
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Merlin
Mar 28, 2007 21:35:15 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 28, 2007 21:35:15 GMT 9.5
lol I think I'll go looking for it just so I can read the flames, sounds fun.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 4:18:36 GMT 9.5
Post by himiko on Mar 29, 2007 4:18:36 GMT 9.5
I watched your video and left you a comment- I liked it. But I swear there's a conspiracy to combine Mab with Within Temptation- I have already found 2 other Mab/WT videos on that site- recent ones, too.
Has anyone else noticed that there's a lot more Mab (and other affiliated Merlin) goodies on t'internet recently (fanfics, music videos, etc.) than ever before. 'Tis the Merlin revolution!
Anyway, to skip merrily back to Merlin discussion, I shall retrieve a couple of thoughts I had on the other Merlin thread:
1)I know we've already slightly discussed Frik, but to bring the topic neatly back around anyway- does anyone have an theories as to how he came to work for Mab? In the "Merlin" books, it says that it happened so long ago that even Mab and Frik can't remember, which, if you ask me, screams of the author not being able to think something up- and where a writer fails, the fan theories must step up to the breach!
2) Mab and Morgan (NO, I am not suggesting a femslash couple!)- I realise the two of them don't actually exchange words until the scene where Morgan has that tragic accident of hers, probably because the dialogue was mostly between Mab and Mordred, and Frik and Morgan, but it occured to me that they must have exchanged words at some point between the scenes we see (and yes, I know that it's just a film, and all that really happened between those scenes beng filmed was the actors having a cup of coffee, etc.) seeing as they live together at least part of the time. I imagine they didn't get on particularly well- thy ignore each other most of the time, and Morgan is quick to get angry with Mab (and vice versa) in the scene where she dies. What does anyone else think?
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 5:19:02 GMT 9.5
Post by Mab Rox on Mar 29, 2007 5:19:02 GMT 9.5
No idea about Frik, but I think that perhaps Morgan and Mab had always had a standing rivalry. They seem to battle over Mordred most of the time, if you look closly. But hey, that last bit could just be my weirdness.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 5:19:45 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 29, 2007 5:19:45 GMT 9.5
I think Mordred and Mab stayed at one end of the room and Frik and Morgan stayed at the other end most of the time. Except when a common enemy like Merlin came to visit so then they temporarly join forces. It looks like Morgan and Frik probably just made out most of the time. lol Was there a lot of talking going on between them?
Hmmm, why would frik want to work for Mab? What could she promise him? magic powers is that all? Like if he joined her back when she was nice. but still why would he want to work for her? Has she always had a sidekick or did frik convince her to take him on? What did she do when/if she didnt have a goon?
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 5:48:05 GMT 9.5
Post by himiko on Mar 29, 2007 5:48:05 GMT 9.5
Got to love your description of Frik's job, arwen. "goon". Pretty much sums him up, really. I think, as a gnome, he had magical powers already. It might be that he convinced Mab to take him on, because he thought it might help him gain more power, or perhaps he had just made a bad enemy from wherever he came from originally, and decided that being Mab's servant in the isolated Land of Magic was a rather attractive prospect.
Frik and Morgan? Yes, I think they talked, a bit... between the making out and the playing cards and that.
Mab Rox, yeah, I think there is a sort of rivallry- obviously it's mostly notable in the last scene together where they are openly arguing, but in the scene before that, I suppose you could read a sense of rivallry into it- Mordred obviously goes to Mab before anyone else, and Morgan seems to take out any displeasure she feels about this by trying to order him around ("Do something about your hair, etc.")
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 6:12:51 GMT 9.5
Post by Incapability on Mar 29, 2007 6:12:51 GMT 9.5
That makes sense to me. I don't think she cared that much for Mordred because raising a child would mean work instead of having fun, but being a vain little creature, I don't think she could stand being ignored by him and occasionally gave her opinion - whether asked for or not.
Now, Frik and Mab? Hmmm. Several possibilities:
1.) Mab comes back from being worshipped and has too many gifts to carry. She spots Frik and says "You! Yes, you, the ugly gnome over there. Come here and carry my stuff." And then he sort of stayed and carried her stuff and stuff. 2.) Mab gives up an announcement in the paper: "grovelling goon needed; must be willing to work in inhuman circumstances and to be shouted at and kicked around constantly; payment non-existent" 3.) Frik is one of those power-seeking weaklings like Peter Pettigrew from HP and came to Mab, begging her to let him serve her. 4.) Your turn. Be creative.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 6:24:06 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 29, 2007 6:24:06 GMT 9.5
one thing I'm confused about: In the scene where Mad and Mordred are talking and frik goes "Isn't that rather unworthy of us?" Maybe I'm being dense, but what was that supposed to mean exactly? Their actions are unworthy (beneath them) ? or what...?
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 6:36:03 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 29, 2007 6:36:03 GMT 9.5
Who was taking care of Mordred's dirty diapers? the maid or something? That's one of the reasons I think Mab let Ambrosia take care of Merlin. Mab isn't into dirty diapers. If she had took Merlin it would have been frik stuck with the dirty diapers. LOL Mab stays around with Mordred a lot though because she possibly noticed that's why she lost Merlin. Merlin never knew her as a child so he had no love for her. Mab sent for Merlin when he became useful (magic powers woke up) and didn't have anything to do with him before then. First 10 years of your childhood is when you form your most basic beliefs and impressions of the world. I wonder why Mab never went to see him before his powers woke up. Do you think she was watching from a distance even if she never revealed herself to Merlin?
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 7:05:05 GMT 9.5
Post by Mab Rox on Mar 29, 2007 7:05:05 GMT 9.5
Definately watching from a distance. And the "beneath us" was reference to Mab playing a bit dirtier that usual--I always assumed that she was breaking some rule or something.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 8:21:39 GMT 9.5
Post by himiko on Mar 29, 2007 8:21:39 GMT 9.5
Now, Frik and Mab? Hmmm. Several possibilities: 1.) Mab comes back from being worshipped and has too many gifts to carry. She spots Frik and says "You! Yes, you, the ugly gnome over there. Come here and carry my stuff." And then he sort of stayed and carried her stuff and stuff. 2.) Mab gives up an announcement in the paper: "grovelling goon needed; must be willing to work in inhuman circumstances and to be shouted at and kicked around constantly; payment non-existent" 3.) Frik is one of those power-seeking weaklings like Peter Pettigrew from HP and came to Mab, begging her to let him serve her. 4.) Your turn. Be creative. I think 1) is my personal favourite, LOL. As to the unworthy comment, I always assumed the same thing- that the action was playing slightly dirty, and almost beneath them.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 10:49:23 GMT 9.5
Post by Arwen17 on Mar 29, 2007 10:49:23 GMT 9.5
ok thanks, cause I was kinda thinking that, but I wasn't sure. Hmm. Merlin got Igraine and Uther together and Mab got Guinevere and Lancelot together.
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Merlin
Mar 29, 2007 11:30:18 GMT 9.5
Post by Kathleen on Mar 29, 2007 11:30:18 GMT 9.5
I just always assumed that if she was the queen of magic and he was magical then he naturally served her. I guess I didn't think he had a choice.
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Merlin
Mar 30, 2007 2:54:01 GMT 9.5
Post by himiko on Mar 30, 2007 2:54:01 GMT 9.5
Merlin got Igraine and Uther together and Mab got Guinevere and Lancelot together. Yes, but Merlin is what is known as a HYPOCRITE OF UNHOLY MAGNITUDE!! as far as this is concerned.
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