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Post by EarlyBird on Oct 29, 2007 23:34:49 GMT 9.5
I wanna see Caitlin *pouts* she is the leed and they better make it she has lots more then the person playing young Caitlin. I wanna see Miranda Caitlin:D
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Post by Libitine on Oct 30, 2007 6:12:37 GMT 9.5
i know! i can't wait for that. does it have a release date yet?
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Post by EarlyBird on Oct 30, 2007 6:16:33 GMT 9.5
Caitlin is 2008 not sure when hopefully early, think she is filming it soon or has filmed it I lose track lol
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Post by Libitine on Oct 30, 2007 9:48:47 GMT 9.5
lol. yes hopefully. ;D
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Post by Rita, Oh Yes! on Oct 30, 2007 22:34:18 GMT 9.5
Piping up on the topic that seems to have passed now -- I don't think sex in movies is a bad thing at all.
And I don't think this article suggested that the movie would be remotely pornographic. White liquid in purple darkness sounds more like an abstract - I believe 'vagina's eye view' means *insides*, not a porno closeup.
As for all of the movies mentioned that contained sex, I think the scenes were vital to all of them. Sex doesn't have to progress plot to be important, but it does have to enhance character and explore a relationship, and that is what it does in all of the films mentioned where it wasn't 'vital to the plot'.
Dance With A Stranger was about a destructive relationship. It was about a woman unafraid of sex, and one that often used it to get what she wanted. It was about a woman who confused sex with love. A confused woman. And that stuff comes out in the sexual relationship - in the scenes in which we see these characters together, almost detached in the first scene and then desperate in the alleyway.
Miranda's character in Century was rather liberal, and that fact was important to her characterisation. It was important to their relationship and important to the story, and that's why we saw them like that, on the floor of that apartment, loving each other despite the prudishness of the time in which they were living.
Sex in film is not automatically pornographic.
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Post by EarlyBird on Oct 31, 2007 1:35:13 GMT 9.5
Yeah it's not, but if you could portray through words instead of those scenes, I think everyone wood be happier. Actors for one, cause they would probably have a few more pages of script to learn then do those scenes. Yeah some movies it needs it, some don't. With puffball we will just have to see, it's had so many reviews about it, alot bad and a few good. But until I have seen it I can't say. But it all depends on characters, plot and everything. If it can do without it then good, if it can't then that's fine. But the actors talent is what we are wanting to see, as long as we understand the characters and plot. And everything else then that's all that matters. And I for one can't wait to see Puffball. But I wanna see Caitlin more hehe, and Youn Victoria too:)just my views don't want confrontation:Dloves you all.
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Post by Rita, Oh Yes! on Nov 1, 2007 21:59:14 GMT 9.5
I don't know quite what you mean by 'through words'. Film is a visual medium. Do you mean dialogue? Dialogue is important in films, obviously, but too much dialogue weighs a film down. Writing visual scenes into scripts is akin to the prose writer's mantra of 'show, don't tell' - if all we ever see is a bunch of characters sitting around talking about how passionate they are, we're never going to believe them. Likewise in fiction - if all a writer does is have the character say they are terrified, or in love, or whatever, without bothering to show the character *acting* terrified or in love, it's really poor writing.
Film writing (and I talk about writing rather than acting or filming because sceenwriting is what I've been learning this semester) owes a lot to the constraints of time. If a film is establishing a relationship in a visual medium, and wants the audience to understand the relationship, what better way is there to do so than to portray the couple engaged in one of the most intense acts of human experience? We can learn more about how a fictional couple feel about each other in a ten or twenty second sex scene (the latter would be quite long) than we can in two minutes of dialogue. And the visual is dynamic - it's what film is made of.
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Post by avalon on Nov 1, 2007 23:03:48 GMT 9.5
D'ACCORD RITA I posted sth similar, if the script or the original story need to sex or love scenes it is a plus to enhace the film not to ruin it.
Henry & June was an amazing motion picture, if you talk about Anais Nin diaries you must tell the passionate story between the trio. henry miller, anais and june. it was so sublte the sex scenes were needed, but caused the MPAA to create a new NC-17 rating.
I guess we have get used to the idea of sensual scenes with "gusto" and if played under a caring production musn't harm any one. of course depends on the individual to like or dislike this kind of films, my idea there's more "verbal porn" so as to say in most teenage Hollywood comedies nowadays than in most mature plots shown on screen rated badly.
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Post by EarlyBird on Nov 1, 2007 23:59:10 GMT 9.5
It's not about those scenes in general, all I am saying is if you can find another way to show something then there is another way. Don't always work but it can. Dance with a stranger and so on I agree yeah it needed it for the character, I am not against scenes like this. Only if they are there for no reason and just for the hell of it. But Puffball is one I really wanna see, and I know it is a film I'll like even if the scenes are misplaced or something. Either way I can't wait for puffball, I just need to see it before we all judge. Either one of us could say it needs it or it doesn't. Untill we see the whole thing how do we know. Anyway I love you all, and I am just stating my views. Not trying to get responses. I wanna see it, and I know it will be amazing, cause others are too judgemental. :)anyway that's all, so don't moan at me for stating my views, cause I really do love Puffball, and I wanna see it. I am not saying the piece is not going to be good, cause I know for a fact it will. Cause I like strange movies. Different styles are great:DEveryone is different. Me love Manda Muchos
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Post by electrostrike on Nov 2, 2007 5:54:25 GMT 9.5
well, these sorts of scenes are always debatable. some people will believe they are necessary - some don't. never ending battle between movie goers, writers, producers, directors and ofcourse actors.
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Post by EarlyBird on Nov 2, 2007 20:34:14 GMT 9.5
Yep true, so there is no point going on about it, cause we don't know until we see:):Dand as soon as I can I will be seeing Puffball:DMiranda's part is just the best:Dand plus in a review someone said that people care more about Mabs then about Liffey hehe:DThat shows you Miranda's characters are always the ones we take interest in. After all with movies we all say more Miranda:Dand this is why hehe:Dcause her characters are the best.
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