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Post by hilloneko on Sept 28, 2007 2:58:09 GMT 9.5
hehe that would have been much better ^^.
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Post by himiko on Sept 28, 2007 6:06:27 GMT 9.5
The foolish people of Nightwish must have failed to yet recognise the amazing commercial potential of Marco's beard.
And, YAY! Minkaro, how be uni going for you?
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Post by Mab Rox on Sept 28, 2007 9:32:27 GMT 9.5
LMAO, yes. Marco's beard pwns all!!!!
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Post by Kathleen on Sept 29, 2007 7:15:56 GMT 9.5
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Post by minkaro on Sept 29, 2007 7:59:50 GMT 9.5
Right, now I've hunted down my earphones so I can actually listen to the songs, rather than just watch the silent videos, making up my own words and music.
I like the orchestral Amaranth. I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but I'd listen to it if it came on in a random playlist.
As for Bye Bye Beautiful, I'll type my thoughts as I go through the video.
1. ARGH! That redhead is scary 2. Teehee, the keyboard one has to hold her hair back. Otherwise it would have mauled the cameraman 3. Yay! The sexier keyboardist appears. He appears to be quite negative about something though, as he's shaking his head 4. Marco is a very angry man. Can't he smile? 5. Lol! Tuomas just looked up, and had a face like "what the hell? where'd you lot come from?" 6. I prefer this one to the last two. I think the new Nightwish songs are getting better as we go along. Bye Bye Beautiful > Amaranth > Eva 7. Speak up love 8. In fact, go away, I like Marco better. Let him sing.
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Post by Incapability on Sept 29, 2007 18:21:44 GMT 9.5
Argh. Aaaaaargh! What has she done to Wish I Had An Angel? And Ever Dream? And all the others?
It was like a bad dream. A very bad dream.
I think I could actually refrain from burning my ears with a long, glowing stick of she didn't do that "eiey" at the end of random words. Presumably for establishing her own style. Which is not good.
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Post by hilloneko on Sept 30, 2007 13:46:29 GMT 9.5
I couldn't even get through Wish I Had an Angel. I just cringed, bleck. I would MUCH rather have Marco singing than her. I mean she just doesn't have the Volume nor the pitch range to do well in any of those songs.
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Post by Lane of Magic on Oct 1, 2007 1:03:01 GMT 9.5
Yup, Ever Dream and Wish I Had an Angel were ruined unfortunately... along with pretty much all the other songs.
But I did find Sleeping Sun better than I had expected. It's nothing compared to the original version, of course, but I listened to it without cringing so much.
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Post by himiko on Oct 1, 2007 12:10:22 GMT 9.5
Yup, Ever Dream and Wish I Had an Angel were ruined unfortunately... along with pretty much all the other songs. But I did find Sleeping Sun better than I had expected. It's nothing compared to the original version, of course, but I listened to it without cringing so much. Really? With me it was the other way round. I haven't been able to listen to all of them yet, but I thought she sounded better on the DPP songs than she did on the album- at least in parts- and her Ever Dream, if no comparison to Tarja's, was decent enough. Sleeping Sun, on the other hand, made me want to rip off my own ears.
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Post by Lane of Magic on Oct 1, 2007 20:51:08 GMT 9.5
DPP songs were ok, I guess, but Ever Dream? No, no... (or as you put it, there were some parts when it sounded better, but not as a whole)
As for Sleeping Sun, it didn't sound that fake to me (apart from the beginning, that is), although, as I said, there's no comparing with the original. *sigh*
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Post by Mab Rox on Oct 1, 2007 23:42:23 GMT 9.5
All I've listened to is Ever Dream, and the entire time I was wailing, "Nonononono, make it stooooooooop!"
LOL. So, yeah. I'm afraid to touch WIHAA. Very afraid.
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Post by minkaro on Nov 6, 2007 1:10:22 GMT 9.5
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Post by Rita, Oh Yes! on Nov 8, 2007 21:54:08 GMT 9.5
I wasn't a fan of the band then, so I don't know how much I can say, but no matter what went on behidn the scenes with them, I think the whole 'putting an open letter on their website telling Tarja they didn't want her any more' thing was rather childish. Very high-school-playground. I don't know, it just seems kind of cruel and ridiculous. And now they've written a song about her, too? Just.... I don't know.
I also don't like Annette. Or rather, I don't like Nightwish *with* Annette. They're not the same band. I really think they should have disbanded and reformed as a different band after losing Tarja. As he says in that interview, they had to change the sounds of the music to go with Annette's voice. Is that the same band anymore, then? It seems a bit unfair to just kick Tarja out and get a new lead singer and still call the band 'Nightwish' - cashing in on the fact that they're already popular and not having to start again.
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Post by himiko on Nov 10, 2007 6:36:14 GMT 9.5
My thoughts: I don't think they should have changed the name, after all, they didn't change it when they fired their old bassist, Sami, and bringing Marco and his vocals in was a pretty big change. The core of the band is still the same. But I'm not a big fan of Anette's voice, myself.
As for the open letter- Tuomas says in interviews that he is very naiive, that he didn't expect such a huge reaction when they posted the open letter. I personally think he was either naiive to the point of stupidity, or very, very clever. And that letter is indeed very clever, intentional or not. It portrays the innocent victim image very well. Got to admire that. Like:
"We never complained that youwere the undisputed image of Nightwish..."
Indeed they didn't. I believe Tuomas said in a couple of interviews before the split that he was glad to be able to not have the media glare on him all the time, and I know that Tarja said she was glad when the guys took over doing more interviews and such because it was very tiring. Therefore, we can assume seeing as at the time she was supposedly being more "divaish", the guys were doing more interviews, that this "image of Nightwish" thing was not her doing. Therefore, why bring it up in the letter except to make yourself look better and her look worse. And looking on the average forum containing a thread on NW, it worked bloody well. See what I mean? Very clever indeed.
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Post by Incapability on Nov 15, 2007 1:40:13 GMT 9.5
Yup.
Besides, I have heard that at the rate she-who-shall-not-be-named is "singing" in the live concerts, her voice will be destroyed in, like, a couple of weeks because she just isn't using any proper technique. I am once again living in hope.
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